Abilor Guide Help

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SpeedRebirth
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Abilor Guide Help

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Im trying to figure out what tables to use when following Abilors Guide. The names are so different that it makes no sense.
Need someone to put me in the right direction. Here are AP tables and what table I THINK is the right one in VT


1) Targeted AFR targets
Fuel CL Commanded EQ (base) --> Closed Loop AFR Target Extended

2) Panic button for ECU if KR occurs
Fuel Commanded EQ Max Enrichment Allowed --> Cant figure this one out, thought it was "Open Loop WOT AFR Target Knock Present Extended" but doesn't add up

3) Targeted AFR targets under Open Loop but with throttle closed
Fuel OL Commanded EQ (Throttle Closed) --> I cant find this one in VT... ??

4)
Fuel OL Commanded EQ --> ??

5) Full throttle AFR target with KR present
Fuel OL/WOT Commanded EQ (Knocking) --> Open Loop WOT AFR Target Knock Present Extended

6) Full throttle AFR target with NO KR present
Fuel OL/WOT Commanded EQ (No Knock A) --> Opel Loop WOT AFR Normal Extended

7) Full throttle AFR target with NO KR present
Fuel OL/WOT Commanded EQ (No Knock B) --> Opel Loop WOT AFR Overload Extended

8) OL Partial Throttle (The guide doesn't fully name these AP tables)
OL Partial Throttle --> Open Loop Part Throttle AFR Target Knock Present Extended
OL Partial Throttle --> Open Loop Part Throttle AFR Target Normal Extended
OL Partial Throttle --> Open Loop Part Throttle AFR Target Overload Extended


This is all i can figure out. It actually looks like VT dosn't have as many fueling tables as AP. Some insight here please :)

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Re: Abilor Guide Help

Post by crashdan »

This would be awesome if the guide could be translated for VT ! :cool

I orignally asked about this on - http://www.mazdaspeedforums.org/forum/f ... lp-123280/

Some more info :beertoast

Closed Loop exit Delay A?
- Closed Loop Open Loop Transition Timer 1
Closed Loop Max Load D?
- Closed Loop Open Loop Load Threshold 4
Fuel OL commanded EQ base?
- Open Loop Part Throttle AFR Target Normal
Fuel commanded EQ max enrichment allowed?
- Min Desired Lambda
WG duty Cycles?
- BCS DC Base
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AP ---Fuel OL commanded EQ base? as a value of "14.60" across Load 0.25 and RPM 500 - 5000

VT --- Open Loop Part Throttle AFR Target Normal - - has a value of "1" across Load 0.25 and RPM 500 - 5000

Vt is in lambda, ap is in afr
14.68 = 1 lambda
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Re: Abilor Guide Help

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crashdan wrote: Closed Loop Max Load D?
- Closed Loop Open Loop Load Threshold 4
I think it should be #3. #4 has values of 0,45313, 0,30312 and such. The one mentioned in abilors guide has standard values of 2.0, 1,5, 1,85. Just like the #3 has. So thats where ive lowered the values to 1,25 up until 4,5k rpm. Take a look at the small screenshot of the "Cloosed Loop Max Load" tables in his guide, it shows C, D, and E. And i know there is also a table named "A". Therefore D must be #3 in VT


Fuel commanded EQ max enrichment allowed?
- Min Desired Lambda
I dont think this is the right table. "max enrichment allowed" refers to a table with afr/lambda values for every rpm value. Min Desired Lambda is a one cell table. I have a value of 0,618 there. "minimum permited desired equivalence ratio"
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Re: Abilor Guide Help

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Check the "Open Loop WOT AFR table Normal/Overload Extended" table then. The Min desired lambda is an overall limit and this is why it's a one cell "table".
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It is a bit wierd if Lex would be wrong about the table names... hmm
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Re: Abilor Guide Help

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I don't think he is... this guy really knows what he's doing. But looking back now I may have been wrong, so it was the OL Part throttle not WOT.
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Built engine + WMI + GTX3071 gen2, ~509BHP @34PSI
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Re: Abilor Guide Help

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So all we need is someone to great a guide for VT :) would be awesome !
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