Does not show big load

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Re: Does not show big load

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Absolute load can be calculated manually from the mass air flow and RPM:
Absolute Load Value
The absolute load value LOAD_ABS is the normalized value of air mass per intake stroke displayed as a percent.
LOAD_ABS = [air mass (g / intake stroke)] / [1.184 (g / intake stroke) * cylinder displacement in liters]
Where:
--- air mass (g / intake stroke) = [total engine air mass (g/sec)] / [rpm (revs/min)* (1 min
/ 60 sec) * (1/2 # of cylinders (strokes / rev)]
--- [1.184 (g / intake stroke) * cylinder displacement in liters] = [maximum air mass
(g)/intake stroke at WOTstp at 100% volumetric efficiency] * 100%.
--- (maximum air mass (g)/intake stroke at WOTstp at 100% volumetric efficiency) = a
constant for a given cylinder swept volume.
--- The constant is 1.184 (g/liter 3) * cylinder displacement (liter 3/intake stroke) based on
air density at STP.
--- STP = Standard Temperature and Pressure = 25 °C, 29.92 in Hg (101.3 kPa) BARO.
--- WOT = wide open throttle.
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Re: Does not show big load

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Everyone, who is experiencing a load limit of 2.5, please double check your tune for any remaining load limits, especially the values defined in tables Operating Load Limit 1 and Operating Load Limit 2. You need to raise the values in these tables if you want to target higher loads.
Don't forget to adjust Overload and Overboost protections accordingly for safety reasons.
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Re: Does not show big load

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Why load is not high than 2.3 in the logs , even if in reality it is 2.5?
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Re: Does not show big load

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That ^^, plus if any of the absolute load limits would be reached the ECU will trigger a fuel cut.
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Re: Does not show big load

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Can anyone who uses load based (not boost based) tuning reproduce this indicated load clipping behavior on an MS6/Mazda 6 MPS?
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Re: Does not show big load

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I have attached a couple of examples from different cars of where the load flat lines.

Log 1 is from a stock block MPS6 with hybrid K04 and the targetted load is 2.3 which is achieved in the log but I still thought it quite odd that the load line is flat as I can't achieve that on other cars.

Log 2 is from a fully built MPS6 with a GTX3076 and was targetting a load of 2.5 but the logs still showed load as a flat line despite of how much boost was ramping up.

In my own car I can achieve a load of 2.6-2.7 with a BNR 2 (although never a flat line!) in the lower RPM so it does not seem to affect every car.
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